Sunday, October 24, 2010

Can we change things?

So, this article, is timely because my husband and I were just talking about the need for higher math last night. The reason we were discussing math on a Saturday night was because the husband is concerned with Wrestling Fan's inability to do simple math and his lack of comprehending basic math skills.

Wrestling Fan has been in school practically since the passage of NCLB. His school career has been somewhat different than the experience his older brother & sister shared. While the older two did not have stellar school careers, their math abilities surpass that of their younger sibling. I firmly believe that much of this is due to the current focus on covering as much of the standards as possible without ensuring that our kids have a full grasp of the concepts before we are told via pacing guides move on. It's the whole depth vs. breadth debate that I have had with many people in my district for the past decade.

However, I also believe that not all kids need higher levels of math in order to be successful. I get the "why" of it, but I don't agree that this is the best policy for our kids. My husband is really, really good with numbers. He has a knack for numbers that I envy. I think he is much smarter math person than I am. Here's the surprise . . . he flunked Algebra in high school, whereas I did well in Algebra & Statistics when I returned to school.

In his line of business, he works with numbers all the time. He didn't go to college & really, has had no desire to do so. Yet, despite his lack of a college degree, he has managed to do quite well because he has a trade as a journeyman painter. Mixing paints & their various compounds requires a fundamental understanding of "basic" math.

We would love for all three of our children to attend college. The rate we are going right now is 0 for 3, but I'm holding out hope. Even if none of them make this choice doesn't make them failures. I know that their journey to be successful adults (if success is defined by making lots of money, that is) may be more tough, but for me as a parent, I simply want them to be happy adults who can make their own way in life.

Another article, speaks of a young math teacher at a KIPP school who was afforded the opportunity to push aside the curriculum used in favor of curriculum that she developed. Matthews gushes over this teacher's innovation without fully realizing that this sort of freedom is something that regular public school teachers are denied every single day.

I also think he quite clearly shows his bias & his naiveté when he writes the following:
Many students would raise their hands, but in typical KIPP fashion she waited for the kids who were struggling to think for a moment, and then called on one of them, even if they had not raised their hands. The idea was to get every child involved in the lesson.
This is what one calls good teaching & guess what, it wasn't discovered by the founders of KIPP.

9 comments:

Margaret said...

I LOVE your last paragraph and OH, SO TRUE. I learned that technique back in the school of ed, oh, about 32 years ago. My husband is like your husband--no degree but installs stairs, which require geometry every time. He is really good at math! I am decent and our younger daughter is a junior math major. Math teachers are under a lot of stress these days to get through the curriculum, at the expense of many of the students. It's the old "rock and hard place" situation. :(

Jenn @ Juggling Life said...

My daughter, with her twice-weekly tutoring sessions in Pre-Calculus as a high school junior would really agree with you.

That said, she wants to get a B.S. Nursing and she needs to be prepared for rigor, so I am okay with her learning to really work hard on this.

ms-teacher said...

@Jenn, we are considering tutoring for Wrestling Fan as well.

Elizabeth said...

I agree with you when you say that not all children need higher levels of math to be successful. My husband also amazes me with his math skills. It would be nice to compute numbers in my head the way he does. However, math has never been my strong suite. As long as I have a basic understanding of math to get through everyday life, and to help my child in school, then I am happy. If the student would like to become an accountant, that's a different story. Then yes, they would need higher levels of math than most.

Polski3 said...

And, why aren't the various teachers unions and associations NOT lobbying the Calif. State legislators to work to develope "basic, reality based" standards, lacking the political correctness virus and that gives teachers the chance to really teach our students? Instead, we just fly through stuff.....and what do students really learn?

Yes, in California, the state legislature approves the state standards. And, having tried to teach them for over 20 years, there are just too many.....and too many that are NOT what educated people would say is necessary for an educated person to need to master to be an active citizen. (to be contunued)

Polski3 said...

Part II: Example, from Grade 8 US History- Calif. State Standard 8-4-2 reads, " Explain the policy significance of famous speeches (eg. Washington's Farewell Address, Jefferson's 1801 Inaugural Address, John Q. Adams's Fourth of July, 1821 Address).

This is minutia, trivia.....will it ever come up in everyday conversation? Will such data be needed in analyzing the spiel of candidates for office? I think not. So, why is it there and why am I supposed to teach it? IMO, such stuff does NOTHING to help young people find enthusiasm for learning our nation's history.

Jessica Reeves said...

I think that mastery grading does help in the upsetting matter of teachers only "covering" many objectives and not teaching to mastery...that is where many schools without well-defined curriculum fall down.

That said, mastery grading in my subject--readers and writers workshop--is a difficulty in itself. I do only have 10-12 objectives to teach every quarter, though so the teaching and learning is MUCH, MUCH deeper...

Here is a link to my page on Mastery Grading. Thanks for your blog.

http://msjessicareeves.edublogs.org

MzMac said...

I thought the whole point of standards based teaching WAS to ensure mastery of each objective. Last year, I discussed my plan to reteach a unit in one of my classes with a veteran teacher because the students clearly had not mastered the content while I moved on with the other two classes. The vet told me I was crazy...just move on. I refused, retaught, and they mastered. I used a different teaching style for that class from then on and they mastered each successive unit. So what if I was a little off on my pacing guide. A good teacher can make adjustments and keep rolling on!

Katherine Taylor said...

I would like to see higher level relevant "thinking" math that actually might apply to the student’s life after education. Calculus is interesting because but is used in so few occupations. Whereas statistics and obtaining data and performing analysis, interpretation and questioning sources is highly useful. From what I see, statistics is becoming more and more useful and should be introduced at younger ages in simple terms growing in complexity as appropriate to age and level of comprehension. The question is not whether we should focus more heavily on higher level math but higher level relevant math that will actually benefit the student to know as most likely after school, they will apply it.